3 - Santa Fe Big Friggin Loop
July 5th, 2008
Jens Nielsen
is the ride coordinator/owner for this event.
He will handle any proposed route changes,
pre-rides, event day sign-in/sign-out, etc.
Thanks Jens!!!
Notice:
New ending route for the 2008.
See description below starting with #14 for the new ending route
No more than 74 people allowed for this event!
Please register here by leaving a comment at the bottom of this page. Use your real name so we can actually have a record of who is signed up. Serious entrys only - please plan on being there if you sign up, because if this fills up you could steal a spot from someone who actually planned on finishing this.This ride is for experienced endurance riders only. As people found out at the 2007 Cochiti 100, these rides are definately not for the faint of heart. Sign up only if you think you have a realistic chance of finishing.
Please make sure to read all rules for this. This is fully unsupported and you will need to be self-sufficient in order to complete this. The rules are located HERE.
When: Saturday July 5th, 2008, 6:30-AM - BE READY TO RIDE AT 6:30AM!! If you are late then do your best to catch up.
Where: Meet at 2nd Street Brewery on San Mateo & the RR Tracks. Cloud Cliff Bakery is close by for early morning coffee.
GPS Track in GPX format:
- No warranty, express or implied, use at your own discretion.
- Must be member of and logged into NMES Google group to get files
- Right click on the link(s) below
- Select “Save Target As…”
- Change the file extension from “.xml” to “.gpx”
- If you have issues with the link below,
log onto NMES Google group, look under files at the bottom
to find all the GPS track files.
- Santa Fe BFL (Update 6/30/2008)
- Go here to convert to other GPS formats
- Go here to download TopoFusion PRO 3.20 Free/Demo
PARKING: Please do not park at 2nd Street Brewery and respect their business. Use public parking area where available and be prepared to ride to the start.
An option for parking is at the NM State Employees Credit Union and it is located on the corner of Lorca & St. Michaels Dr. & San Mateo. They are not open on Sat. Should/could be easy parking and only half a block from the brewery. You ride right past it on the way to Atalya on San Mateo.
Also, big parking area at NM State Offices also on San Mateo next to Mandrell’s Gym (on San Mateo, around the corner from C.U.)
Beer at 2nd Street Brewery end of the ride for survivors. ![]()
The crown jewel of the NMES -
a ~70 mile, 14k of climbing adventure!
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Detailed Route Description
Starting from 2nd Street Brewery.
1. Turn R on San Mateo and make the following turns (or signs) to St. John’s College Right: San Mateo, Straight: Camino Lejo, Right: Old Santa Fe Trail, Left: Camino Del Monte Sol, Right: Camino de Cruz Blanca to St. John’s College. Once at St. John’s College head to parking lot and look for Atalaya Mountain Trailhead.
2. Follow the Atalaya Trail all the way up to the top of Atalaya Mountain. You will Cross Wilderness Gate Road after less than 2 miles. Choose either the steeper and or less steep route to the top.
3. Drop off the backside of Atalaya Mountain on the very steep and loose trail and head over to Dale Ball - look for cairns on your right. Do not miss this first right turn!!!!. Once connecting on the Dale Ball Trail Network - starting at intersection #41 follow the DB network through these intersections 41-36-35-40-32-31-30-29. Head to Dale Ball Center and connect 27-26-25-23-22-16-15-17-14-13 and head out on Hyde Park Road (R).
Remember to follow the exact route. If you miss a turn, go back and do the route properly. At the bottom of Dale Ball South, you can turn right and head up the gravel road to refill water at the Audobon Center. This is less than .5 miles out of the way.
While on Hyde Park Road you may be able to beg for water at Thousand Waves Spa. I’ve never tried it, but they do have water there.
4. Follow Hyde Park Road into the Santa National Forest and look for Chamisa Trail Tr. 183 parking area on your left. When in the parking area, take the right hand trail (both go to the same place, but the right hand one is the better trail). Once you climb Chamisa Trail, you will come to an intersection - turn right and ride down to Winsor Tr. 254 and turn Right to climb the mountain.
Now begin the 4000-ft climb up Tesuque!
You can filter water out of Winsor Creek - OR - go off course and take Borrego/Bear Wallow to Hyde Park State Park to re-fill here. This is quite a few miles out of your way though.
5. Take Winsor Tr. 254 to Big Tesuque Tr. 152 and climb some more and cross Hyde Park Road at Big Tesuque Campground. There is a creek here to filter water out of. Continue climbing until you hit Aspen Vista Road and turn right to climb to the top of Tesuque Peak.
6. Once you crest the ski area, continue on up to the cell phone towers and take in the view - you are at 12,045-ft elevation!!
* Note - you MUST crest the mountain by going up to the cell towers for a quick out and back. No cheating and rolling through the ski area.
Turn back for a few hundred yards and follow the ski trail called Sunset to Lower Burro (follow the faint truck trail) and follow that to the bottom of the ski area. Do not climb up to Raven’s Ridge at the big elbow near Deception Peak (the best downhill option here should be quite obvious). You can filter water out of several places here.
7. At the bottom of the ski area, in the paved parking lot look for the FS Outhouse and connect again to Winsor Tr 254, take this a short ways to Rio en Medio Tr. 163 and descend all the way to Aspen Ranch. Creeks and water are quite abundant, and so is giardia, so bring a filter. At Aspen Ranch turn right on the gravel road, and then look to your left for the trailhead of the Borrego Tr. 150, Ride Tr. 150 all the way over to Rio Nambe Tr 160. After crossing a creek, continue on straight through a trail intersection (it should be marked). Do NOT turn left and follow Rio-en-Medio downhill. Once past this intersection you will immediately begin a short steep climb on some switchbacks. This will lead up to a dirt road - follow that straight on through to the Trailhead for Rio Nambe Tr. 160.
8. When you get to the intersection of Borrego Trail Tr. 150 and Rio Nambe Tr 160, you have an option:
8a: Original route (GPS): Turn left down Rio Nambe Tr. 160 to Tr. 179 the cutover back to Rio en Medio.
or:
8b: Turn right/straight and continue on Borrego Trail Tr. 150/ Rio Nambe Tr. 160 for 0.3 miles, then left on Borrego Trail Tr. 150 to Rancho Viejo. At Rancho Viejo, turn left on Rio Capulin Tr 158 and follow that back to Rio Nambe Tr 160. This adds about 2 miles to the route.
The two trails (160 and 158) merge in a small meadow, where you will follow Rio Nambe Tr. 160 along the river for 0.2 miles. Look for the left cutover back to Rio en Medio. This will be hard to see - look to your left for a sign high up in a tree - and then cross the creek to get to Tr. 179. This trail has some steep switchbacks and you will see some hike-a-bike here. These two trails are classic Santa Fe back country riding at it’s best!
*expect downfall and overgrown trails here - this is remote back country. Crossing Nambe Creek might also have high water levels.
** Do NOT miss the turn (on your left) to Tr. 179. this is where you have to cross Nambe Creek again for the final time and the turn can be missed. The sign is high up in a tree on your left and you will quite possibly be descending with a high rate of speed. Be careful here.
9. Turn R on Rio en Medio and Decend to the little village of En Medio after crossing the creek a few times. Continue on the dirt roads until they turn to pavement, which eventually become SR 592. Look for the Recreation Center on your left for a potable rewater point (from hose spigot) once in town. Continue on 592 until you reach Pacheco Canyon Road.
10. Climb Pacheco Canyon Road (turn left) all the way back up to the Winsor Trail. This will be a long, gradual climb on a dirt road. This is not the last climb of the day, but it is that last long one. From the Rec. Center in En Medio to the Winsor Trail it is a 10-mile climb covering 3100-ft of elevation gain!
11. Sweet Descent! Turn R on Winsor and descend Tr. 254 all the way back down to the Chamisa Trail.
12. Turn L on Chamisa and climb back up to the saddle with the map and 5 way trail.
13. At the top of saddle at Chamisa, turn R and climb, climb some more on sweet singletrack on Sidewinder Tr. 232. Continue Sidewinder Tr. 232 to Tr. 399, but turn left at the fence line (there should be a cairn) and descend toward Hyde Park Road. Part way down the hill there will be an intersection, stay straight/left here and continue descending to the bottom. At the bottom of Tr. 399 there will be another trail intersection.
14. Continue straight/left (different from 2007) and follow Little Tesuque Trail Creek east to Hyde Park Road. This is less than ¼ mile from the intersection. Go right on Hyde Park Road towards Santa Fe, there will be a 250ft climb up to Ten Thousands Waves.
15. Head towards Dale Ball Central, and go left at the main parking area for Dale Ball North/Central. This is intersection 13. Follow these intersections: 13-12-18-20-24, until you reach Cerro Gordo Rd
16. Turn left on Cerro Gordo Rd. Right; Upper Canyon Rd, Left; Camino Cabra. Follow Camino Cabra until you pass the turn for St John’s College. Retrace your steps from the morning, back to Second Street Brewery:
Right; Camino de Cruz Blanca, Left; Camino Del Monte Sol, Right: Old Santa Fe Trail, Left Camino Lejo, Straight; San Mateo
17. Congrats, you just finished the hardest mountain bike ride in Santa Fe, NM!
Maps;
Excellent maps exists from the following;
1. Santa Fe County for Dale Ball Network (not needed however because all intersections of the trail netwrok are marked with a map.)
2. Sky Terrain Trail Maps has the entire course mapped out - including Dale Ball. This is an excellent Map and will cover you entirely.
3. Drake Mountain Maps are also available all around Santa Fe and cover most of the netwrok but not all of Dall Ball.
General Notes;
1. Rewater point is in the village of En Medio at the Rec. Center. If packing a water filter there will be plenty of place to replenish your water supply. Food sources will not be obtainable along the route, although the route does pass through some small vilages.
2. Bail-out points. They are numerous and easily accessible. The most common is at En Medio, where a lot of people have skipped the Pacheco Cyn. Road climb and went to Tesuque for food at the Village Store and then wheeled it back into town.
3. The final rally point is at 2nd Street Brewery. IPA….das good!
4. Remember - no cheating! Follow the exact route posted here and be prepared to support yourself in order to recieve credit for finishing. Read the rules, bring all maps, a gps, water filter, and enough food in order for you to not only complete the trip, but also for you to survive.





January 12, 2008 at 2:43 am
Hey Matt, is it possible to get a GPS download of the course?
January 12, 2008 at 4:16 am
Hi Bret, I am now coordinating the series as Matt has moved to Durango, Co. I will be posting GPS files a few weeks prior to each event. Stay tuned…
January 20, 2008 at 11:10 pm
See you on the plaza!
February 1, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Bring the pain!
February 25, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Count me in for another go!
April 5, 2008 at 1:37 pm
iN
April 8, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Since I’m the ride coordinator I better sign up.
April 11, 2008 at 1:19 am
Sign me up. Thanks.
April 15, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Sign me up.
April 19, 2008 at 12:24 am
I’m in. Might as well do this one. Thanks.
May 1, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Sure; I’m in. See you there.
May 14, 2008 at 6:20 pm
I’m getting a group together, a texan, a louisianna-ian and probably a couple of new mexicans. 3-5 in.
sounds like a bad joke doesn’t it?!?!
May 16, 2008 at 2:52 am
Hi Zoe, please have each person in your group sign-up individually. I expect this one to fill up, so have them sign-up sooner than later…
May 16, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Sign me up- no gps, just GP, ready to roll.
Zoe, see you there…
May 19, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Kimmie Sather and Charley Rome are in for sure, I”ll send them here to sign up, but FYI
Z
May 19, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Please expect me for the Santa Fe Big Friggin Loop.
Charley Rome
Baton Rouge, LA
May 20, 2008 at 3:46 am
Please add me to the growing list.
May 20, 2008 at 3:47 am
I’m in.
May 20, 2008 at 10:28 pm
You can count me in for sure.
May 22, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Can’t wait. Count me in. Thanks.
May 24, 2008 at 12:31 am
I’m in! It was great last year.
May 26, 2008 at 12:33 am
Kim and I are in for this one.
May 30, 2008 at 9:52 pm
I’m in. Enjoyed the day last year.
June 4, 2008 at 1:52 pm
okey dokey
lets ride
June 5, 2008 at 2:14 pm
I’m in.
June 10, 2008 at 2:43 pm
I’ll be there.
June 13, 2008 at 3:53 pm
I wouldn’t miss this one. Please count me in. Can Jens carry my water?
June 14, 2008 at 12:20 pm
im in
June 16, 2008 at 7:08 am
Aw shucks, new job-haven’t gotten any riding in. Give my slot to some lucky rider. Enjoy.
June 16, 2008 at 1:17 pm
sign me up
June 16, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Sorry I bagged the C100, but this one is on the training schedule. See ya at the BFL!!!
June 18, 2008 at 3:48 am
I guess I should offically sign up also… I’m in
June 19, 2008 at 5:00 pm
I’m crawlin’ outta retirement for the best ride - out my front door at that!
So - I’m in - wanted to sign up before the max 74 was hit (which I suspect it will).
Plus, the mother-in-law is in town that weekend, so ANYTHING to get away. Wish I could ‘pack’ my little dude Victor along for the ride, but while Pacheco Cyn. and Winsor is trailer-friendly, Nambe is not!
Notes:
In directions above, in the instructions paragraph #7 - the trail reads “Name” at the end, but is clarified in the next sentence (instructions paragraph #
as “Nambe” (pronounced Nam-BAY) which is correct.
Is it OK to stash our own supplies along the way? If so - I’d happily leave many gallons of water at a vehicle / drop spot (unmanned) over at the start of Pacheco Canyon Rd., where it turns to dirt, or up just a bit.
Can we skip Atalya? (just kidding - I love grinding/hiking/clawing my way up that beast….eh. Right.)
Thanks Lenny and Jens and all for keeping it rolling along.
June 22, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I’ll pack a headlamp this year so as not to be caught out in the dark.
June 23, 2008 at 6:32 pm
I’m going to have to cancel out. Hyper-extended my knee playing basketball. I gave Atalaya a go last week but paid for it afterward. There’s always next year.
Sorry about missing Cochiti. I tried to do it but flew in from Chicago at 1:00 a.m. the morning of the ride and I was missing the wife after 4 days traveling. I would like to thank all the guys that helped me out when my chain wedged between the rear cassette and wheel on the Cochiti loop 2 pre-ride. I couldn’t have gotten out of that mess without the help. Lenny and Chris, you guys rock!
June 24, 2008 at 4:31 am
Please add me to the list.
June 24, 2008 at 4:44 am
Add me to your list, looks like I will be able to make this one.
June 24, 2008 at 4:32 pm
I am in….
June 26, 2008 at 1:20 pm
I’m in
June 28, 2008 at 7:07 pm
I’m mapping out the ride and some items have come to my attention:
1. Starting off at ST. Johns we go up trail 170 to Atalaya Mountain?
2. Do we stay on the high trail over to Picacho Peak?
Next Question:
3. Do we stay on 152 to the 150 past Tesque Campground?
4. After Medio we stay on 592 to make left on 76/Pacheco Canyon Road/TR 102?
5. Do we then take 254 down to Chamisa Trail head the same as we went out? Turn around at the bottom and take same ascent as trip out to TR 232?
June 29, 2008 at 4:41 am
Sorry, but I’m fighting a bout of pneumonia and won’t make the event after all. Please take me off the list. Thanks.
June 30, 2008 at 3:04 am
Please hold a spot for me. Trying to come back from semi-retirement ought to be fun with this ride.
June 30, 2008 at 7:27 am
In
June 30, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Zoe:
If I understand your question(s) correctly, here’s my ‘crack’ at answering them.
1. From the Atalya Trail Parking Lot / Trail Head - go up the arroyo trail (well marked and worn). The trail climbs out of the arroyo, to the left - after a few minutes of ‘easier’ riding. This gets steep and technical for a few minutes, in places - until it temporarily tops out at a dirt road (Wilderness Gate Road). You’ll see a set of timber stairs climbing the embankment across the road - head up those and get to the top of Atalya anyway you can!
2. You do not go all the way up to Picacho Peak - but you do go down, then up, then down again if following the route correctly - sort of in the shadow of the peak itself.
3. Not sure about trail number specifics, but YES, stay on the trail through the campground, across the ski hill road. Still a number of trees down as you climb Big T past the campground up to Aspen Vista - though I moved a number of them yesterday morning.
4. The way you framed this question is difficult - but here goes;
Yes - descend Winsor / 254 back down to Chamisa / 183.
Climb Chamisa to the saddle where it intersects 232 / Sidewinder (yes, the same trail you came down initially).
At the intersection on the saddle - turn right onto Sidewinder / 232 (you will have passed it on the way in, at the start).
So NO! No need to descend all the way to the bottom of Chamisa (to the parking lot) and come back up it again to Sidewinder - unless you relish yet more pain.
Sounds right everyone?
July 1, 2008 at 10:39 am
Great descriptions thank you!! Cleared it up for me!! I don ‘t think I’ll have any questions about the return, or rather the new stuff. But I’ll post if I do. I do have another question, and that is; tires. Right now I have a less agressive tire on, Maxxis Monorail and Crossmark in reverse. However, I’m thinking about an IRC mythos or Serac instead. How will everything hold up in the rain? Will I want something a little more beefy?
July 1, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Zoe - there is so much different terrain, tire issue(s) will be more likely associated with pressure(s). Monorail looks perfect, as if you do hit mud it looks like it won’t pack up too badly. Crossmark should be OK too. I’d suggest not changing tires so close to the ride, unless you have to! Ride tires you’re familiar with, and comfortable on.
What’s great is that 99% of the trail the ride covers drains really well, and has minimal ’sticky’ mud. I think the short stretches of Dale Ball Central at the beginning, and then at the end - have he worst potential for bad clay-ee mud. Maybe portions of Aspen Vista Rd. too. Most of the rest is rocky / decomposed rock, so it’s great even right after heavy rain.
July 2, 2008 at 4:50 am
I’m in for the ride.
July 2, 2008 at 3:19 pm
I’m out, out of shape and out of town, have fun.
July 3, 2008 at 4:44 pm
good luck on knee recovery Oscar
who else will keep me chattering at my ‘crawling uphill’ pace like at the SYDC?
July 3, 2008 at 5:21 pm
I’m in.
July 4, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Count me in.
July 4, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Planning to ride part, see you in the AM.
July 4, 2008 at 11:53 pm
In. See ya all out on the trail.